Spinning, Black Hole

' It seems that a supermassive black hole lurks in the heart not only of the Milky Way, but of many observable galaxies. The hub of the stellar carousel is a place where space and time end, and into which stars can disappear forever.'

Dennis Overbye 'Trolling the monster in the heart of the Milky Way'

Vertigo causes one's world to spin, on a vertical or lateral axis. Like being in the hub of a carousel that is turning, and unable to stop it.  Looking back on a bout of vertigo, it is the feeling of helplessness as well as the nausea which sticks in the memory.

Being caught in a black hole would mean immediate extinction, so nothing to remember, and a much more extreme comparison with an earthly experience like vertigo or Swirl. But a 'place where space and time end' captures something of the Swirl experience, notable as it is for a feeling that time has slowed, and that spatial orientation is lost.

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"Was it a curved space?
Angular? How thick were the walls? How deep was the space? How high? "

Are not these descriptors specific to a physical space, like a cave, rather than as in a metaphor?

Grammar

I feel anxious.
I have an anxiety disorder.
I am depressed.
I have a depressive disorder.

I feel a swirl?
I have a swirl?
I have a swirl disorder?

I am a swirl, swirled. I am swirling.

I am pulled into depression.
I am pulled into anxiety.

Part of the problem here is that the swirl is much less homogenous than, for example, depression and anxiety. Also it seems that one talks about the experience afterwards.

Limits

ken and I have a different take on the swirl. I did not realise this until Ken pointed it out. I think of the swirl spatially and he does not.

So, I think of someone entering the swirl. Not willingly at all but nonetheless entering it. Going inside or maybe pulled inside. There is then an inside and an outside, and  a line or space that when crossed signals the start of the swirl experience. That does not sound quite right but that is what it seem like. When we discussed this much earlier I thought then that one way out of the swirl was to consider the coordinates of the internal space. Almost literally. I then imagined the swirl as a cave or chasm, and what needed to be done was to look around and take measurements. Was it a curved space?
Angular? How thick were the walls? How deep was the space? How high? And so on.

Weird and eerie

I've been dipping into Mark Fisher's book "The Weird and the Eerie' published just before he died.
He writes about the terms as follows:

"....the weird is constituted by a presence - the presence of that which does not belong. The eerie, by contrast, is constituted by a failure of absence or by a failure of presence.

I wonder if the swirl is a mix of both. If so what might be present? Maybe a spectral presence, namely a sense of being observed and thus shamed.

And what might be absent? What immediately comes to mind is agency. It is as if in the swirl the individual is powerless.